The Trinity is indeed unusual and mysterious, but it is not inherently or analytically irrational. Why The Trinity Matters (Practically Speaking) 5 min read. Three common sense reasons that cannot be disputed. There is only one God who is three persons. Even the proteins in your cells are complex. I hope this helps explain why Christians believe in the Trinity. it's easier if we all say inches or we all say meters,hence the need/call for the council of nicea. We say, “The Trinity. It says NAME, which brings us to Acts 2:38, which Amy's to be baptized in the NAME of Jesus Christ. One of the best books I have ever read on this subject is "The Doctrine of the Trinity, Christianity's Self-inflicted Wound" by Anthony F. Buzzard. First, God is a God of revelation, one who reveals God’s self in our lives. And please, read this carefully, and take it holistically, as a whole. For this reason, the Trinity is not a creative whim, it is an effective solution. God created by speaking (the Word) as the Spirit hovered over the chaos. To understand more fully what God is like is a way of honoring God. This formulation can show us why there are not three Gods, and why the Trinity is not a contradiction. 1:32 PM. First, what does the doctrine mean? Trinity is not important because it is nothing. Simply put, the Trinity is God in three persons and one essence. Notice it is used in singular form, not plural. Instead, the Word and the Spirit were like his own two hands (to use Irenaeus’ famous phrase) in fashioning the cosmos. Please make sure all fields are filled out. So again, Jesus is not the second person of a trinity, but according to flesh he is the Son of man, the Son of God, the high priest, chief cornerstone, the last Adam made a quickening spirit. The Gospel Coalition supports the church by providing resources that are trusted and timely, winsome and wise, and centered on the gospel of Jesus Christ. This is why Jesus told Philip, he who seen me has seen the Father Jhn 14:9. Judging by the church’s historic creeds, Christians used to think the Trinity is really important. I do agree, the Spirit of God cannot die, and indeed the flesh of Jesus died on the cross. Israel was surrounded by pagans and God continuously warned Israel to keep themselves pure by not associating with or practicing any of their pagan religions. 6:19; Acts 5:3-4) without a second thought. The doctrine of the Holy Trinity states there is one true God who is made up of three separate but equal persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. This is complex. Really good argument, really impressive, truly is logical. Jesus made a couple of statements; He said that Him and the Father are ONE. At Niceae the question was about Jesus being begotten and being the first creation which God is not a creation as he was and always will be forever. For starters there are verses that speak of God’s oneness (Deut. I understand why people see trinity, but it's against the basic law of Judaism. The Trinity is one God existing in three Persons. Christianity, with its understanding of God as three in one, allows for diversity and unity. 5/3/2014,
The belief is because of the sacred Scriptures God has given to us, beginning in 1400 B.C. It doesn’t tell … Orthodox Trinitarianism rejects modalism which believes that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are different names for the same God acting in different roles or manifestations (like the well-intentioned but misguided “water, vapor, ice” analogy). 3/17/2010,
The love of God is infinite and eternal because each member of the Trinity is infinite and eternal. This is because this great Trinity man holds in the heart simply does not exist. God is one in essence, three in Person. He is not three gods, but three persons in … God is one, and God is three. Find it out for yourself in the scripture. Doesn't the Bible state that God is a jealous God? Please Register. 9/12/2012,
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I don't get why it saves. Augustine once commented about the Trinity that “in no other subject is error more dangerous, or inquiry more laborious, or the discovery of truth more profitable.” More recently, Sinclair Ferguson has reflected on “the rather obvious thought that when his disciples were about to have the world collapse in on them, our Lord spent so much time in the Upper Room speaking to them about the mystery of the Trinity. Mary is not part of the trinity because she is not GOD. It is certainly not. Jesus is not Jehovah Jr., but indeed God made human. It sounds like a really hard math problem. There are only 3 recorded times in the entire bible where the Father spoke,and they occurred in the New Testament while Jesus Christ was here on Earth. The Trinity. Scripture is the reason why Christians believe God is Triune. Tozer said, “What you think of God is the most important thing about you.” God the Trinity is important because it's everything. Keep in mind when studying this subject that the word “Trinity” is not found in Scripture. One, the Trinity matters for creation. “I believe in an Almighty God,” said President Bush in an interview with Al Arabiya, “and I believe that all the world, whether they be Muslim, Christian, or any other religion, prays to the same God. God is one in essence, three in Person. Christianity today is perverse because of this doctrine. "The Trinity is important, but the question of 'threeness-in-oneness' isn't, necessarily...The current best way to explain the Trinity is to reach for the gospel narrative. 6:4; Isa. 4:6; 1 Cor.12:4-6; 1 Peter 1:1-2; 2 Cor. So, the results these products don't offer a permanent cure for the women with low libido and their partner during the issue. It was the Holy Spirit, which makes Him the father of Jesus. The Trinity is first of all important because God is important. Then we have similar texts which assume the deity of the Holy Spirit, calling Him an “eternal Spirit” (Heb. I’ve heard it said that the two main rivals to a Christian worldview at present are Islam and Postmodernism. 12:11 AM, 3/9/2010,
Solomon's downfall was taking pagan wives who influenced him away from the true God. This is why Jesus told Philip, he who seen me has seen the Father Jhn 14:9. (3) The Son is God. The Trinity is first of all important because God is important. So again, Jesus is not the second person of a trinity, but according to flesh he is the Son of man, the Son of God, the high priest, chief cornerstone, the last Adam made a quickening spirit. Yet, when it comes to the doctrine of the Trinity, most Christians are poor in their understanding, poorer in their articulation, and poorest of all in seeing any way in which the doctrine matters in real life. 28:19; Gal. But God is not an equation to be figured out, but rather our Lord to be loved, enjoyed, and obeyed. All through the Bible, God is presented as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. A.W. I am told that one can not be saved without accepting the doctrine of the Trinity, yet even the most capable theological minds on the planet debate over it -- not only as regards the understanding of it, but also as to whether or not it can even be derived from Scripture! That is, the Trinity of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit simply does not exist. He tried to glorify the whole Constantine thing and said the "Church" lost its way but the reformation fixed it. God will not contradict His law or His word. 2:24 AM, 12/8/2017,
Islam is shirk: In Islam Mohamed is a messenger from God; the final prophet - but more, he is sinless & the perfect model for mankind. Because they 1) Limit what God can do and 2) deny the Bible. Simply put, the Trinity is God in three persons and one essence. (2) The Father is God. All of the creedal formulations and theological jargon and philosophical apologetics have to do with safeguarding each one of these statements and doing so without denying any of the other six. Don't just take your pastors word for it. His life and ministry bore record of His separate identify, yet prayed to His disciples in John 17 that they would become one as He is with the Father. The doctrine of the Trinity, as summarized in the seven statements earlier, is not a philosophical concoction by some over-zealous and over-intelligent early theologians, but one of the central planks of orthodoxy which can shown, explicitly or implicitly, from a multitude of biblical texts. He is not merely the Son of God but also God the Son. Sometimes it’s easier to understand what we believe by stating what we don’t believe. that particular council may have not seen the spirit manifest,but the ecclesias and denominations begotten by the holy catholic church(subsequently holy roman)each have their confirmation via works of the spirit that the creed(in its versions)holds truth. 2/20/2013,
First, the Trinity matters because Jesus had to be fully God to save us. Free subscribers can search and share thousands of articles and resources. Jesus said he was correct. Why the Trinity is important. The Trinity Accounts for the Derivation of Love God is love (I John 4:8) and He has been love from all eternity. I pray you all get the chance to experience it. Truly this does NOT make any sense. Why is the doctrine of the Trinity important? According to the book of Isaiah chp 44:6, 8 there is no one beside God. There are lots of reasons, but borrowing from Robert Letham’s work, and in Trinitarian fashion, let me mention just three. The right hand means "a place of honour and authority". violate the law of noncontradiction. And for us to see the beauty of the divine life and to respond with awestruck worship is not something that serves another, higher, end, not something of use. Therefore, it is important to note that the doctrine of the Trinity is not polytheistic as some of its critics proclaim. The bible says Jesus is God, and that the "Lord is one." But the divinity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is one, their glory equal, their majesty coeternal.”. The Trinity is a key idea in Christianity but many Christians find it hard to understand – how can God be both three and one? They usually come down two or a few individuals endlessly driving their point of view to each other, without any possibility of the discussion changing each other. God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, but there are not three gods. This is a fair question, especially since the Trinity isn’t easy to understand. This office of Jesus Christ must reign until the enemy is defeated, while the devil is already a defeated foe, but until everything has been made under subjection, Jesus Christ (his authority) must reign. But, if you think about it, most of reality isn’t simple. The trinity is not Bible. It is really hard to talk about it without unintentionally speaking heresy, so in this article we will present the basic doctrine and then explain why it make philosophical and logical sense to be that way. It tells us that we are called to submission, humility, and the honoring of others within community. Best regards. 3 Common Sense Reasons Why the Trinity is a False Doctrine. In order for something to be contradictory, it must violate the law of noncontradiction. When he ascended to heaven he was seen by Stephen sitting on the right hand of God (demonstrating that he is both divine but separate from God) at Stephen's stoning (Acts 7:55-56) and will eventually descend to earth in the same form that He ascended to Heaven (Acts 1). If Jesus was God he would have told us so. God is not 3 separate "persons." In a historical book called “The Doctrine of the trinity” by a Mr. P.E.White (who is a Catholic) we read this: 9/20/2012,
Jesus is the name of God by inheritance (Hebrews 1:4), and in him (Jesus) dwells the fulness of the Godhead bodily (Col 2:9). It doesn’t say anything about their nature. a creed is the measuring rod of a religion and is indeed manmade;however,confirmation by the paraklete or holy spirit that the nicene creed(in it's variant versions) is in accordance with scripture has been happening since jesus rose from the dead. These are all conventional notions of man, and the fallacious beliefs of man. in Matthews, North Carolina, board chairman of The Gospel Coalition, and assistant professor of systematic theology at, (Charlotte). before getting into anything historical,your definition of god should be clarified. Likewise, it is only with a Trinitarian God that love can be an eternal attribute of God. The three great ecumenical creeds—the Apostles’ Creed, the Nicene Creed, and the Athanasian Creed—are all structured around our three in one God, underlying the essential importance of Trinitarian theology. One God. Third, why does any of this matter? It makes no sense to ask what the point of the Trinity is or what purpose the Trinity serves. Postmodernism, on the other hand, emphasizes diversity—diversity of opinion, belief, and background—without attempting to see things in any kind of meta-unity. Yeah, I get why the Trinity is an important doctrine, and the "correct idea of his character" bit was actually something I thought of also! The point is we do not have to rely upon pills because these disease are the outcome of body hormonal changes. 8/17/2010,
Hi, it's Heffalump again, I just want to mention some typing errors that I found after submitting the above contribution. And finally, orthodox Trinitarianism rejects all forms of tri-theism, which teach that the three members of the Godhead are, to quote a leading Mormon apologist, “three distinct Beings, three separate Gods.”. (5) The Father is not the Son. not God. When the ancient creeds employ extra-biblical terminology and demand careful theological nuance they do so not to clear up what the Bible leaves cloudy, but to defend, define, and delimit essential biblical propositions. Why Does It Matter that Jesus Was Born of a Virgin? We teach that they have a common goal and purpose to help us understand God, get closer to Him, and live better lives with our fellow man. 3/23/2010,
Jesus asked the Apostles who do you say I am? I believe doctrine does divide.. Understand that this is not in any way suggesting three Gods. 7/20/2013,
Copyright © 2021 The Gospel Coalition, INC. All Rights Reserved. The trinity doctrine states that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, but is one God. The doctrine of the Holy Trinity states there is one true God who is made up of three separate but equal persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. now unless the son and holy ghost aren't two aspects of the one triune god,then jesus just commissioned them to go blaspheme and to do so in the name of god which is illogical and heretical. The bible answers this question for us which shows that at Niceae they did not use the bible to answer their question at all. I personally believe that there is only One. 10:31 PM. We have already agreed that God is the Almighty. so, ... 11/22/2014,
7:19 AM. Even though the word “Trinity” is not found in Scripture, the doctrine is clearly presented. 9:34 PM. So, let me make the most important statement about the Trinity that I can make this morning, and that is — Our understanding of the Trinity is based on what we see God has done and is doing in the world. He has authored numerous books, including, “Live Not By Lies” – Whether Right or Left, American Christians and Islam: From the Colonial Era to the Post-9/11 World, The English Quaker Who Subverted the Bible’s Authority. Peter said you are the Son of God. Many take the bible so literally that one begins to think that Jesus is distinct from the Father. When Jesus returns for His people we will all see for ourselves whether there is 3 or 1. “I believe in an Almighty God,” said President Bush in an interview with Al Arabiya, “and I believe that all the world, whether they be Muslim, Christian, or any other religion, prays to the same God. The Bible does not contain the word Trinity. 3. The triune God is not only the supreme being: the sovereign source and end of all creatures (Rom. Unlike Swinburne, he does not seem to think that this argument is important to reasonable belief in the Trinity (Craig believes the Trinity can somehow be derived from the Bible–on which see section 5.4), nor does Craig mount a philosophical argument for why … None is more essentially divine than the rest. In fact no one has seen God at any time according to Jhn 1:18. When we bind ourselves to the Trinity we affirm two things about God. The bible says in Matthew 28:19 to be baptized in the NAME of the Father, Son, Holy Ghost......NAME.....Father is not a name, but a title. For the person of the Father is a distinct person, the person of the Son is another, and that of the Holy Spirit, still another. Why The Trinity Matters (Practically Speaking) 5 min read January 24, 2017 4 min read. 2:13 (“our great God and Savior Jesus Christ”)-not to mention the explicit worship Christ willingly received from his disciples (Luke 24:52; John 20:28) and the charges of blasphemy leveled against him for making himself equal with God (Mark 2:7). The Persons are not three gods; rather, they dwell in communion with each other as they subsist in the divine nature without being compounded or confused. 1:37 PM, 6/27/2017,
But God is not an equation to be figured out, but rather our Lord to be loved, enjoyed, and obeyed. The Bible does not contain the word Trinity. Five Reasons Why the Trinity Doctrine Doesn’t Make Sense. He also said if you seen Him, you have seen the Father. if you agree that god is omnipotent amongst other things,then god is capable of existing in three persons/aspects yet be one triune being. Having been around this list* for a few years now, it is always interesting to observe some of the discussions that go on. The Bible forces us into the doctrine of the Trinity because the text speaks clearly on the concepts and understandings of God’s triune nature as preserved by scholars within Christendom for thousands of years. This scripture does not mean that Jesus is saying HE and the Father are the same Being.That is obviously what confused Trinitarians say it means but there are Dozens of scriptures that prove otherwise.Start reading your bible from this perspective and God the Father thru his holy spirit(not capitalized because the holy spirit IS NOT a he)will clear the confusion in your mind caused by hearing years of trinity false teaching. 9/12/2012,
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Thankfully, that is not the case. Why The Trinity Matters (Practically Speaking) 5 min read Reading Time: 4 minutes A.W. I am a terrible proof reader even after checking more than 10 times! I recently saw a special on Sir Isaac Newton, that he believed the same thing from his own study of the Bible. Without a plurality of persons in the Godhead, we would be forced to think that God created humans so that he might show love and know love, thereby making love a created thing (and God a needy deity). I would like to challenge everyone to google a man named William Branham. One, the Trinity matters for creation. God is one, and God is three. He would have just been another created being. Today’s big idea: the doctrine of the Trinity is important because it helps describe the nature of God. 6/16/2010,
I address all major trinitarian arguments here, please read before commenting. I'm not that interested why it is important, but put that too if you want. It is basically saying that there are three separate Gods because they are distinct one from another (derived from tritheism). 2:21-22; 13:14; Eph. your wrong its very important. And the Trinity is probably the most confusing doctrine as well. Before trying to understand the doctrine of the Trinity, it's vital to realise why it's important. Although the word “Trinity” is famously absent from Scripture, the theology behind the word can be found in a surprising number of verses. It is pagan in origin. The reason why I ask this is because the bible says that all things wee created by Him (Jesus.) If you thoughtfully read through the gospel of John, you can’t help but be impressed with the profound words of Jesus concerning His mysterious relationship with the Father and the Holy Spirit.. The revelation of Jesus is a very life changing experience. Kevin DeYoung (PhD, University of Leicester) is senior pastor of Christ Covenant Church in Matthews, North Carolina, board chairman of The Gospel Coalition, and assistant professor of systematic theology at Reformed Theological Seminary (Charlotte). He is not just a "force" but a Divine Person. 10:33 PM. For removal of copyrighted material, please contact us HERE. One theologian said, tongue in cheek, “The trinity is a matter of five notions or properties, four relations, three persons, two processions, one substance or nature, and no understanding.” All the talk of essence and persons and co-this and co-that seem like theological gobbledy-gook reserved for philosophers and scholars-maybe for thinky bookish types, but certainly not for moms and mechanics and middle-class college students. May I add a fourth reason. 10:30 AM, 4/15/2019,
Best answer ten points and rate! Here is a short, straightforward argument that exposes the doctrine of the Trinity as a man-made apostasy. 6:18 PM, Trinity is a false doctrine. Dear Mr. Dingle, your statement is true & well researched. To understand more fully what God is like is a way of honoring God. What better way to keep men from God than by making HIM completely incomprehensible? 4/30/2009,
Ever heard of Oneness? So in a few hundred words let me try to explain what the doctrine of the Trinity means, where it is found in the Bible, and why it matters. Name, but a title. Far and away the hardest doctrine to understand, the trinity is one of the keystone beliefs of the Christian faith. (4) The Holy Spirit is God. The bible states that Jesus is the mighty God, the everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9:6), and he is the Almighty (Rev 1:8). For us, the Trinity is sometimes assumed, overlooked. The doctrine of the Trinity can be summarized in seven statements. The Lord God had to set abode upon a bodily form (to be revealed or manifest), to save his people from their sins Jhn 1:1, Mt 1:21. 1:45 AM, 3/16/2018,
6:10 PM. First of all, Jesus never claimed to be God, but rather the Son of MAN. Ah, of course: three-in-one. since god will tolerate no other gods,the son and holy spirit must be consubstantially existent with him. From apostolic times to the present, they have struggled with themselves and in their misguided effort to "explain" the mystery have only rationalized their own ideas of what the mystery should be. The doctrine of the Trinity is important first and foremost because God has chosen to reveal the doctrine to us through his Word, thereby making it a biblical doctrine. Sorry Hawk but Jesus Christ before He came down here in the flesh,co-existed eternally with the Father as the Logos or Word. 3:10 AM, 10/18/2018,
Orthodox Trinitarianism rejects monarchianism which believes in only one person (mono) and maintains that the Son and the Spirit subsists in the divine essence as impersonal attributes not distinct and divine Persons. We worship a God who is in constant and eternal relationship with himself as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Ministry Matters™ is a community of resources for church leaders. God, unlike the gods in other ancient creation stories, did not need to go outside himself to create the universe. 11/14/2011,
9:14) and using “God” interchangeably with the “Holy Spirit” (1 Cor. Understanding God as triune is a theology-driving, awe-inspiring, life-giving truth. At the end of the day, doxology is the only appropriate response to the reality of God. The Oneness, however, is evident throughout the Bible. Community is a buzz word in American culture, but it is only in a Christian framework that communion and interpersonal community are seen as expressions of the eternal nature of God. Most people's problem, he says, centres ultimately on the three-in-one issue, "but that's not the big question about God". It, most of reality isn ’ t for anything beyond itself, because the Trinity is the! The book of Isaiah chp 44:6, 8 there is 3 or 1 Trinity, rather. All Rights Reserved choose not to believe in the Trinity isn ’ t say anything about their nature so... An eternal attribute of God is a theology-driving, awe-inspiring, life-giving truth whim, it means `` ''. 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